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… than it is now. Or a little more– yeah, put more rationale into drug discovery by knowing what these things actually do … chemistry or only biochemistry or genetics. It was also ecology. It was also evolution. It was kind of everything … Usually, in a lot of cases, we still have to go through publications to get proteins, and their functions, and all …

… we recorded at the Society for Industrial Microbiology and Biotechnology (SIMB) Natural Products meeting earlier this … in synthetic chemistry as were you and then made their way into the field of natural products in some way, shape, or … so do you want to tell us a little bit about what got you into natural products and got you excited about the world of …

… that some of these genes have moved from the mitochondria into the nuclear genome over evolutionary time. They also … lineages, genes have migrated from the mitochondrial genome into the nuclear genome over time — supporting the notion … fungal nuclear genome assemblies in the National Center for Biotechnology Information's GenBank. This led to identifying …

… basic ideas of the science of natural products, and we dive into the very early history of the field. If you continue … secrete siderophores to pick up metals and bring them back into their cell. And yeah, and then there are other bacteria … know, like an organism. They have specialized cells and the ecology there is really fascinating, probably a bit under …