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… into force in 2014. There’s now a website that has a lot of resources that you can access. As an ethnobotanist, a lot of … because they’re the ones that have access to these natural resources, but they don’t necessarily have the support … for this audience, I think there are some amazing resources they should be aware of. At the National Cancer …

… of it. So it wasn’t only chemistry or only biochemistry or genetics. It was also ecology. It was also evolution. It was … my PhD, I was mainly working in the lab, right? I was doing genetics, and I was very much into biosynthesis of these …