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… went on to work at a groundbreaking company in the early 2000s called Ecopia, which was a very early genome mining … they had the same conserved polyketide synthase and then P3. We still don’t know why 20 years later. JACKIE WINTER: … anybody in natural product discovery in any field and even 30 years ago would say it’s the [key to] success. And that …

… like a nice summer day in Seattle I think this was like 2013 or 2014. And antiSMASH — I know you’ve interviewed Marnix … as much about it as possible starting with we picked 183 of them. And we sent that list to the Joint Genome … or it could be a whole grad student thesis to synthesize a 13C-labeled version of your compound. So people have been …

… who was working on these things in the very early 1900s.  DAN: And so he has drawn what he called … and their discoveries over a stretch from 1940 to 2000. As you can see, from the 1940s, into the 50s into the … a conversation from the first episode . You can go to part 3 here . You can find the podcast on  Apple ,  Google ,  …