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… list of things. So we have a Scripps background shared together, although I don’t think we overlapped. Kate Duncan: … or antibiotics and stuff like that. Dan Udwary: Yeah, making biofuels has to be really cost-efficient or you have … I’m talking of CEOs, professors, and the kind of decision making table– the data is still very unequal. Dan Udwary: …

… was a golden age right there when we were all in the lab together and the ring tank party. But that’s when a bunch of … by submitting it, you are checking a box and agreeing to making that data public. So yeah. So if you don’t want your … boats because anytime somebody is working on something or making some posts or whatever that becomes public and …

… right? I mean, at the end, we somehow have the big goal of making that process a little more effective than it is now. … went to Scripps [Institution of Oceanography in San Diego] together. And I worked for Brad Moore as a postdoc and you … a lot of searching the internet, searching literature, and making databases. Because that’s what I noticed is really a …

… six episodes, and now after gathering some feedback and making a few technical tweaks, I think we’ll be on a pretty … united by natural products, DAN: You guys have put together a fantastic program. So I’m looking forward to the … you’re asking the question why in nature are you making only one of the two hands. So that’s a question about …

… lots of new molecules being discovered lots of new things making it to market and they wanted to keep that trend the … chemical reactions where you’re just putting two units together in a foolproof way, then if you imagine, say, if … discovery. Not the case, as you say, not too many new drugs making it to market, still.  ALISON: Yeah, so that was a lot …

… There’s a lot more to talk about there, and I’ll be getting together a proper introductory episode with her in the near … But I couldn’t stop thinking, well, these organisms are making these compounds. It looks a lot easier than what I’m … fixable. But if we can then co-opt the life processes in making knockouts or knockins, doing some directed evolution, …

… maybe this is a safe place to grow because we’re all here together. ALISON: How beautiful. What a great partnership.  … a long time. But… DAN: Yeah, there are a lot of ways to put together carbon molecules. Chemistry is pretty limitless. … But these kinds of bacteria grow in filaments and they grow together in clumps, almost like, you know, like an organism. …

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