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… then genomics happened. Dan: Yeah, I did my first genome sequence with you. Brad: That’s right,  Dan: JGI did it in … Community Sequencing Program, and they worked with us to sequence two genomes. Those were of Salinospora tropica and … think that was the first perhaps the only case of a genome assembly being aided by a chemical entity. Dan: Yeah, we …

… with any kind of gene cluster identification, doing it with sequence alone you have to have some kind of a template to … Then you have to first– there’s an interplay between the sequence and the chemistry where you have to have one or the … genome. So this is part of the problem because it can be an assembly problem. But we don’t see them clustered. But why? …

I mean, why is it that our organization is spending so much resources on energy and keeping alive a very complex … to approach it is more related to what JGI does, which is sequence genomes. And we just published last year in the …