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… animals, for example by dredging and all these kinds of techniques. But the ocean was just not considered to be of … the great students are in Georgia, in Atlanta, at Georgia Tech. Another great student is in Florida continuing to do … here in La Jolla, called Nereus Pharmaceuticals, small biotech. And that’s a whole other story, biotechs. But they, …

… and the environment – problems that might need special technology for DNA sequencing, genomics, metabolomics, and … to keep this as general as possible, but scientists love technical jargon. If you don’t have that background, well, … probably some historical evolutionary event where the DNA transferred from the fungus into the tree and became …