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… without giving any benefit back to the owners of that genetic material? So this is also relevant to bacteria. If … in there as well, and it was prepared almost like a coffee table book so that it was very, very visual, lots of … plants with antibacterial activities: a taxonomic and phylogenetic perspective Ethnobotany and the role of plant …

… of it. So it wasn’t only chemistry or only biochemistry or genetics. It was also ecology. It was also evolution. It was … my PhD, I was mainly working in the lab, right? I was doing genetics, and I was very much into biosynthesis of these … the secondary metabolites within a community are kind of stable even if the community itself changes a lot. Because …

… including single-cell and spatial transcriptomics barcode-based genetics (RB-TnSeq), and computational genomics to better …

Udwary: Yeah. Kate Duncan: So they’re also incredibly adaptable. I think there has been some examples of real … at the chemistry produced by microbes, they’re pretty adaptable to other organisms. And we’ve done that with … of CEOs, professors, and the kind of decision making table– the data is still very unequal. Dan Udwary: Yeah. …

I’m committing to it, and you all can hold me accountable and yell at me if I slip again. My JGI coworkers are … Very familiar with working actinomycetes. We can also genetically manipulate them. We can do strain improvements. … of microbial sequences. So let’s say you’re interested in improving a lead compound that you’ve discovered from …

… product molecule around that. That’s sort of a semi-stable configuration of electrons that becomes really … But today, you have so many other say morphological, genetic, you know say sugar, lipid composition – so I think … type, so here’s a drawing. On its own, this is a really unstable configuration of carbons, and, instead, these six …

… as a much longer conversation, which I cut into more digestable pieces. If you’re an expert in the field, you can … environment to make their environment a little more hospitable to themselves and when it gets when it gets dry then …

… looking at that I’m a very visual person. So, when we make genetic mutants in a fungal isolate, I can see something … Yeah, okay. Of course. Fungi have a larger genome. The genetics was slower to begin with. So transformation, or … were transformed. So I wasn’t even thinking of molecular genetics of finding genes when I first started out, because …