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… so my collaborator and I have this idea that they work like pastry bags almost and so they are essentially squeezed out … a long time whenever you did a genome sequence, in about 40% of the genome the genes were completely unidentifiable. …

… underwater. But thankfully that worked out. And I spent 30, 40 years diving all over the world and bringing samples into … polysaccharides. We cultured things with fish meal, seaweed paste. I mean, we tried really hard to think about what … they won’t grow because everyone tried to grow them using Pasteur’s media, same old, same old. And of course they …

… nice summer day in Seattle I think this was like 2013 or 2014. And antiSMASH — I know you’ve interviewed Marnix [Medema] … Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that I have observed in the past is that it seems like a lot of natural products are … You would do for gene labeling. You would do you know C14 in some cases. And so it’s going– I think it’s going back …

… marine natural products. And was at the university for over 40 years. There were four of us as kids in the family. I was …

… away from the ocean. Microbes. We’ve done those in the past, but the DOE mission changes over time. Yeah. We don’t …

… need the community to be able to come together. And in the past, we’ve had these monolithic databases, NCBI and IMG , …

… the United States in … I forget the number, but it’s over 42, 43 states, but we’re also in many countries, including … Tiny Earth is using to be different than screening in the past, is in the types of pathogens or challenges where we’re …