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… the science and scientists of secondary metabolism. Welcome back. This will be episode 12 of Natural Prodcast. And it’s … Europe. So if there are any kind of dated references to the news, that’s why. But it was a really fun conversation. And … NADINE ZIEMERT: It wasn’t that long ago, but maybe 2006, 2007, or something like that. And we actually found the whole …

Back in 2011, JGI-supported researchers published a paper in …