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… is where I did my undergraduate and I was a double major in Biology and I got introduced to this field of anthropology … of their plant extracts, but also establish their own microbiology lab so that they, on site, can really do more to … identifying their roles within these complex communication systems across kingdoms of life. ALISON TAKEMURA: OK. This …

… hear which we recorded at the Society for Industrial Microbiology’s Natural Products conference, which took place a … challenges were associated with getting good transformation systems going. That has a lot to do with, well, the fact … genome, I guess, and the way DNA is activated. The promoter systems are different. We don’t have operons. It’s just …

… it didn’t. However – and this was a proposal on synthetic biology of engineering gene expression in bacteria – … to work for two years at the Max Planck for marine microbiology in Bremen, Germany. And I wanted to work with a … I was already planning to start a group in computational biology of natural products, and I thought, OK, even for my …