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… in natural products as an undergrad. So for me, it was studying sort of the interface of chemistry and biology … I mean, you’re in Northern California, and it doesn’t matter where they are. You still get the air. Air is not … are familiar with JGI’s IMG data portal , the Integrated Microbial Genomics, there was a subsection of that called …

… of thought with that. So some people are interested in cave microbial– people are interested in the more extreme … just now switching from intermicrobial interactions, studying intermicrobial interactions by imaging interactions … pharmacological properties. So they’re new compositions of matter. So one of the problems with the erythromycins and …

… of natural products, Professor Bill Fenical from Scripps Institution of Oceanography in San Diego. Bill is a pioneer … kept looking for open jobs that said, we want a chemist to study the ocean. And I didn’t find a single job … powerful people. These were people that really controlled microbial drug discovery. And a guy like me, with no …

… DAN UDWARY: You’re listening to the Department of Energy Joint Genome Institute’s … Europe. So if there are any kind of dated references to the news, that’s why. But it was a really fun conversation. And … ALISON TAKEMURA: So Nadine, what got you interested in studying natural products? NADINE ZIEMERT: Like almost …

… DAN: You’re listening to the US Department of Energy Joint Genome Institute’s … genomic revolution, to me, as a natural part chemist for microbial natural product, is that I love microbial natural … the production of the natural product. So that was my PhD study, and then towards the end of my PhD study, then …

… for Episode 14 of Natural Prodcast . There’s been a lot going on, so I took a little break, but I’m hoping that from … I did my undergraduate in microbiology and then PhD in microbial genetics in the UK. And came across to the US for … And these were not in natural products, these were in studying regulatory mechanisms of, first, E. coli and then …